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    jglover45
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      Curious how this is set up for item score. Is this something similar to what one would find with PAWN?

      Is
      there a place where one can find import scores for people that have
      like builds? Mostly curious how the stats where come up with. Thanks

      #170469
      mysti35
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        Same question  :)

        #169175
        Ozzi
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          These are Stat Weights, they are datamined from SimulationCraft Program, Pawn will uses this data along with:

          1. Icy Veins
          2. Ask Mr. Robot
          3. RaidBots

          Most popular sites are Pawn and RaidBots, my guild in Wrath Classic use RaidBots.

          Here’s a wowhead thread that will step you through to obtain and setup and use SimulationCraft to get your own data and then steps you through how to use Pawn.

          You can do the above to get your own stat weights, use pawn to get the export code. Import that code in to Dugi Guides Gear Scoring > Import Scores, paste the import code and then click Apply button, allow the Ui Reload.

          I can whip up a proper DugiGuides forum guide to do this for both Wrath Classic and Retail, but my current work load is somewhat high atm and this will be done in my free time.

          #170471
          mysti35
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            The key question for me is how to do this in Wrath-Classic.  It is my understanding that SimulationCraft is only for retail.

            If I am wrong, I am certain I can get it working, but I am not sure where to do that.

            Back in the day, I ran the above almost weekly for years :)

            #169139
            Ozzi
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               Yeah that’s true it is for retail, however, I have settings for both classic and wrath classic to use in simulationcraft, the trouble I am having is locating said settings. I know I have them.. somewhere 🤣

              #170473
              mysti35
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                I do wish these kinds of things would be written for Classic again :)

                #169032
                Ozzi
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                  Unfortunately I have lost the settings, I think it was with in my previous malfunction in my NAS rack system, I have also frantically searched through some of my backups without any luck.
                  Talking with some of my guildies in Wrath Classic they are pointing to https://wowsims.github.io/wotlk/
                  However, it’s not the same, but, it will help with the planning of potential upgrades so it does hit that nail at least. Classic and Wrath Classic quest planning and armor planning is a huge thing, so I hope this site will help you out.

                  As for the settings, I have not given up and I am still looking for them.
                  Yes, I will also make a DugiGuides “Get Stats for your Character and how to determine what upgrades are good or bad” manual mostly for Classic and Wrath Classic. Retail will also be included for SimulationCraft and Pawn and other variant addons etc.

                  Other sites that can help are:
                  Classic = https://sixtyupgrades.com/
                  TBC = https://seventyupgrades.com/
                  Wrath Classic = https://eightyupgrades.com/

                  #170479
                  mysti35
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                    Thanks Ozzi.  wowsims would seem to be the easiest to use.

                    A part of me wonders if Wrath is larger than retail!  If true, raidbots should start a Wrath site :)

                    #168878
                    Ozzi
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                      mysti35 said:

                      Thanks Ozzi.  wowsims would seem to be the easiest to use.

                      A part of me wonders if Wrath is larger than retail!  If true, raidbots should start a Wrath site :)

                      No, I doubt it is or ever would be bigger than Retail. Classic, TBC Classic, Wrath Classic is not for the weak, there’s a strategy behind everything, right down to when pulling a mob or mob’s, so the experienced would generally play these Classic titles for that challenge and nostalgic satisfaction, the casuals will stay in Retail, hands down.
                      I find myself not playing the game as what anyone else is doing, I get a character to a certain level requirement and get the data needed for the job at hand, for any of the clients. So far it’s mainly Retail that’s the most active client out of the 3.

                      I hope Raidbots do support Wrath, it will be useful to use as a comparison with other variants, or rather lack of lol
                      The more tools out there the easier it will be to confirm upgrades and fine tune our characters for PvP or Raiding etc

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